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Don't expect this to be an every Saturday sight in NYC....

 

The State University of New Jersey.  That's what Rutgers is, and what Rutgers always will be.  Despite it's close proximity to New York City, the Scarlet Knights will always resonate with citizens of New Jersey more so than it will with Manhattenites across the river.  Just like professional soccer will never take off in the United States, college football will never take off in New York City.  New York will always be a pro sports town, no matter how you slice it.  And that brings me to my issue that I brought to the attention of ESPN's Big East Blogger, Brian Bennett in his mailbag:

Bobby from Princeton, N.J., writes: I take issue with your comment suggesting that Rutgers is "the one that fancies itself as New York City's team". Rutgers stands more than 30+ miles from NYC, and to me has fashioned themselves as the State University of New Jersey. It's not our fault that everytime RU plays on ESPN they love to show the empire state building and mention how RU plays in New York City's backyard. If fans in NYC want to adopt RU as their rooting interest that's fine with me, but I don't see any concious effort on RU's part as portraying themself as New York City's team.

Brian Bennett: Really, Bobby? Rutgers has done all kinds of things to try to capture the New York City market, which is smart on its part. How about playing in Yankee Stadium and the new Giants Stadium, just to name one? Every time Scarlet Knights officials talk about big picture issues, they always seem to include their proximity to New York City.

 


 

Just another excuse to watch the best 2 games in Rutgers History....

Now I agree with Brian that Rutgers is smart in taking advantage of the financial opportunities presented to it.  And usually I agree with a majority of the stuff that Brian writes, he is a terrific blogger, and does a great job covering the Big East for ESPN.  But just because Rutgers is going to play games at Yankee Stadium and the new Giants Stadium (which I might add, is in New Jersey last time I checked), it does not mean that they "fancy [themselves] as New York City's team".  College football is a business and Rutgers will make a heck of a lot more money playing Army at the Meadowlands than it would playing them at home.  And a game at Yankee Stadium is just that, a game at Yankee Stadium.  Alabama has played 2 straight games at the Georgia Dome to open the season (in the Kickoff Classic), but that doesn't mean that they're trying to invade Atlanta, or consider themselves to be Atlanta's team.  'Bama was offered a financial incentive, and extra publicity and jumped at the chance.  That's the way that I see these games for Rutgers.  The money was on the table, and the opportunity was there for more exposure, so they leaped at it.

Rutgers has long been known as those "loveable losers" from New Jersey.  Though losers no more, Rutgers still appeals to me as a blue-collar school, far-off from the culture and bright lights of New York City.  I bet if you went around the country and asked people who the major college football team for the NYC area was, they would be baffled.  Go around and ask people who the major college football team in New Jersey is, and you'd get an overwhelming majority who answer with Rutgers.  Rutgers has a BCS tie-in, and has high-profile games coming up in the future (UCLA, Miami, Penn State), so it's not like NYC offers some kind of media frenzy that they don't currently have.  Recruiting-wise NYC does not offer as much talent as New Jersey does year-in and year-out, so the advantage does not lie there either.  I just do not see how Rutgers has marketed themselves as a New York City extension other than taking the opportunities that were offered to it.   

My problem with Brian's statement might be more directed at Rutgers and their public relations department.  I don't see how/why Rutgers would want themselves to be adopted as New York City's team.  Rutgers already is playing on ESPN for more than half of its games, and is televised locally on SNY for most others.  If people in New York are interested in the Scarlet Knights, they'll watch the games.  If not, they won't watch.  It's as simple as that.  A large portion of people living in New York City have transplanted for work purposes, and have attended college elsewhere around the nation.  They're not going to openly fawn over a Rutgers team because they're "New York's Team".    Like my soccer analogy earlier, I just don't think that Rutgers will ever be New York's team.  When the World Cup comes around, everyone gets excited for a few weeks and realizes how great soccer is, but after that last whistle sounds, soccer is all but forgotten.  With professional football, basketball, hockey, and baseball all crammed into a tiny area, how much room is there really for Rutgers?  Sure, when they have the season like the did in 2006 it will start to get people excited, but ask your casual sports fan in New York City right now what Rutgers record is, and you'll see how much they care.

With all due respect to Mr. Bennett, Rutgers has a good thing going in New Jersey and should focus on keeping it that way.  Drive down the turnpike and see how many block R's you see in bumper to bumper traffic.  Rutgers and New Jersey go together, both under-appreciated, but both just "keep chopping". 

 

 

Do you think that Rutgers could ever be a "big thing" in New York City?  Should Rutgers market itself more within NYC?  What are some of the advantages you think Rutgers could attain?  We want to hear your feedback, leave your ideas in the comments section.

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I agree with what you’re saying, Rutgers is New Jersey and the higher-ups should do everything they can to preserve that identity However, there is no doubt that there are things to be gained by associating with NYC, chief among them is $$$, but also prestige. Just look at professional sports. All New York teams are among the most valuable in their respective leagues, but this most apparent in the NBA. Over the last few years the Knicks and the Nets have been totally abysmal, especially the Knicks. Yet the New York team is ranked by Forbes as the most valuable NBA franchise while the New Jersey team is ranked 26th. And it’s the allure of New York that has people believing the Knicks can compete for top-flight free agents this up-coming summer, despite their lackluster performance. If Rutgers were to play up their relative proximity, it might draw more people, and not just athletes, but more students. The Northeast produces a lot of great students, and a fair share head to the Midwest because they want the sort of atmosphere offered by Michigan or University of Wisconsin. If Rutgers were to spread their perceived boarders to NYC and other parts of the Northeast, these students might decide instead to spend their big out-of-state tuitions on Rutgers.

by XLII on Nov 17, 2009 9:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great Points

You make some excellent points, especially in regards to the Knicks and Nets. I appreciate your feeback.

But will New Yorkers come to see/watch Rutgers when they’re a .500 team fighting for mediocrity in the Big East? The Knicks are a different animal. They are horrible this year, but MSG is located right there, people are going to pack that arena whether they are a 10 win team or a 70 win team. Same with the Rangers, Giants, Jets, Mets and Yankees. That’s a lot of sports teams to go around. Can Rutgers really find a niche there?

I’m not sure what you mean by Rutgers spreading their perceived borders? Do you mean physically (like starting to migrate some RU buildings into NYC)? I think Rutgers is already spread thin enough across New Brunswick, Piscataway, Newark, and Camden and any extra extension of the school should be considered as diminishing returns.

The last thing I want to say is that it seems like Rutgers is trying to bring people to New Brunswick and Piscataway. The landscape and atmosphere around New Brunswick has changed dramatically in the past few years. Why focus on New York City when you have a revitalized downtown area being built in your own backyard.

by ibleedscarlet on Nov 18, 2009 8:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I didn’t word that last part very well. All I meant was that if Rutgers were to present itself as major northeastern university and not only for New Jersey residents, they would be able to draw more out-of-state students. Compared to other major D1 state university, Rutgers has a very small % of out-of-state students. Increasing this % would bring in more money and nation-wide prestige.

by XLII on Nov 19, 2009 9:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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